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  Shaking Down Satan - WT Sues Norway

  by Sea Breeze in

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  i wonder how many witnesses are aware that the wt and their team of lawyers are currently suing the government of norway for millions of dollars?

  i thought that the wt taught that all the governments were run by satan.

  when i was a witness, this would have really bothered me.

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  The reason that JW kids get thrown under the bus is because of the near fever pitch hysteria that WT puts its members through regarding Armageddon. Since I was a little kid, my parents believed that Armageddon and mass killing and destruction could break out at any moment. As a result of this fear, all kinds of insane parenting seems ok if it will help save someone from being destroyed at Armageddon. This is the real reason for JW mental and emotional abuse of children: Hysterical Fear

  True story: I knew a JW family that their eldest daughter turned 14 in 1977. Like a lot of kids then, she started to act out because of a combination of the spectre of Armageddon and the failed 1975 prophecy. She became sexually active with someone in her neighborhood. He was 26 years old. Instead of calling the police (agents of Satan) like a normal parent would do, her parents encouraged them to marry. I am convinced that the reason was so that she would not be destroyed at Armageddon for slipping around fornicating. I can almost bet the local elders were in on this as well, but can't confirm. The girl was unbaptized.
  
  She was so young that they had to give parental permission for her to marry. Later it was found out that the man she married was an ex-convict and had been previously married. He had done time in a different state for shooting his wife in the face with a shotgun. Not sure if she died or not.
  
  So instead of going back to prison for statutory rape where he belonged, he got to marry his victim and make her life a living hell for the next two years until she finally left him and had to move back home.

  Of course everyone blamed the girl for being stupid, sinful, and prideful for not leaning on Jehovah. She is still alive I'm told, but her alcoholism is so advanced she cannot put two coherent sentences together from what I understand from a family member.
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  Conversation with old friend

  by LongHairGal in

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  i recently had a conversation with an old acquaintance from the congregation i used to attend.

  we talked about the recent changes in the 2023 annual meeting.

  i especially pointed out the one about getting rid of hourly reporting on monthly time slips.

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  Sea Breeze

  Good wok LHG!
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  2nd Isaiah 49:6

  by peacefulpete in

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  6 and he said, it is too small a thing that thou shouldest be servant to me to raise up the sons of jacob, and to bring back the netzurei yisroel (preserved of israel,); i will also give thee for ohr goyim, that thou mayest be my yeshuah unto the ketzeh ha’aretz.. 2nd isaiah, actually an anonymous prophet at the time of cyrus, did his best to inspire and hearten his fellow countrymen.

  many judahites had lost hope and even lost faith.

  the explanations offered by previous prophets, namely that their own sins had resulted in their situation, were not adequate nor convincing.

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  @Phizzy

  I'm not trying at all. The facts speak for themselves. Instead of employing logical fallacies like you did above (no true scotsman)., next time try commenting on the evidence.
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  2nd Isaiah 49:6

  by peacefulpete in

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  6 and he said, it is too small a thing that thou shouldest be servant to me to raise up the sons of jacob, and to bring back the netzurei yisroel (preserved of israel,); i will also give thee for ohr goyim, that thou mayest be my yeshuah unto the ketzeh ha’aretz.. 2nd isaiah, actually an anonymous prophet at the time of cyrus, did his best to inspire and hearten his fellow countrymen.

  many judahites had lost hope and even lost faith.

  the explanations offered by previous prophets, namely that their own sins had resulted in their situation, were not adequate nor convincing.

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  2nd Isaiah, actually an anonymous prophet at the time of Cyrus

  @PP

  I don't think so. Here's a refutation of the belief that there was more than one Isaiah.:

  Were There Two Different Isaiahs?
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  Shaking Down Satan - WT Sues Norway

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i wonder how many witnesses are aware that the wt and their team of lawyers are currently suing the government of norway for millions of dollars?

  i thought that the wt taught that all the governments were run by satan.

  when i was a witness, this would have really bothered me.

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  New Light coming in Watchtower article:

  "Due to the high cost of lawyers and shortage of elders, the Faithful and Discreet Slave is announcing that we are increasing the number of witnesses needed to establish CSA from 2 witnesses to 3".
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Do you think sexting girls whilst married in the twuff is a stabilizing influence?

  It's usually a crime if the girl is underage.
  
  
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  Geoffrey Jackson goatiegate Part 2

  by Tahoe in

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  from ske graduation this past weekend.

  (sent from a pimi).

  from ske on zoom: .

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  It’s amazing how quickly a GB member grew one.

  Don't be gullible. Isn't it obvious that GB member Jackson wanted to grow a gotee, so suddenly the ban on beards disappeared?

  This is the kind of crap that happens when a person follows men instead of God. And btw, this kind of tyranny isn't limited to just cults you know.
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  Did Jesus Die On a Stake or a Cross?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  dominic enyart exposes watchtower deception regarding their demonization of the cross.

  information packed.

  interesting take on paganism as well.

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  Psalms 22:16 doesn't matche any incident in David's life; instead, it is a symbolic description of his anguish over what seems to be unanswered prayers for deliverance The verse does prophetically closely match the experience of one of Davis's descendants, Jesus, during His final hours.

  "For dogs have compassed me: The assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: They pierced my hands and my feet."
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Since Lloyd elbowed his way to prominence in the ex-JW movement the Watchtower can point to him and say to the JWs: Look what happens to a person when they leave "the truth." Do you want to become like them? Why would you want to believe the lies they promote?

  Exactly. Loyds path of self destruction for himself and his family is a dream come true for the Watchtower. Anyone supporting him in any way is supporting the Watchtower's narrative about those who choose freedom of religion that is taken for granted in the western world, but denied to it's members.
  
  
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  Did Jesus Die On a Stake or a Cross?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
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  dominic enyart exposes watchtower deception regarding their demonization of the cross.

  information packed.

  interesting take on paganism as well.

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  Sea Breeze

  the traditions were all in flux

  I don't believe the evidence supports such a sweeping statement. People make mistakes. Irenaeus' writings were not inspired, infallible or perfect.

  From Orthodox Christian Theology:

  "There are several problems with Irenaeus’ chronology. First, secular historians are aware that Pontius Pilate served specifically during the reign of Tiberius and perhaps the very beginning of Caligula’s reign—not Claudius. Additionally, this obviously does not align with modern conceptions of the Lord being approximately 33 years old before the resurrection.

  Most importantly to those looking at the earliest Christian sources on the question, Irenaeus’ chronology does not match that of his contemporaries. Saint Justin Martyr, writing before Irenaeus, placed the Lord’s death under the reign of Tiberius. (First Apology, Chap 13) Saint Hippolytus, writing a generation after Irenaeus, explicitly held to a chronology of Christ having an approximately 33-year life before the resurrection. Other near-contemporaries such as Tertullian (Apology, Chap 21), the author of the Acts of Pilate (Prologue), and Julius Africanus (Fragment 18) concur. Hence Irenaeus is contradicted on this specific chronological view by a consensus of Christian saints and thinkers in his own time."

  But none of this changes the overwhelming evidence that Jesus was crucified on a cross and not a pole. JW's just love being contrarians to bolster their pseudo-intellectualism.